• Archive for November, 2009

  • Spotlight on: Jordon Keltz

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    seniorsforliving

    “It all started above a deli in Staten Island.” And so begins one of the lesser known and more  intriguing stories in the world of online lead generation, one that has resulted in not just one successful exit but potentially three. Junkies of online lead generation will know the name ClassesUSA, and they will know it not for some of its innovative work on display today but for owning display before anyone, even the schools themselves, understood that it could be done.  And, it all started above a deli in Staten Island.

    The story which is today SeniorsForLiving.com began in 2000 when Jordon Keltz, who ran an internet consulting company ,became introduced to Luciano Rammairone, the founder of CollegBound. Today, they rank among the largest of online lead generation providers, easily in the top there, but in 2000, CollegeBound was an offline business, a series of publications for students and adults interested in higher education. Web guy meets education guy. They name their online venture ClassesUSA. The rest is history. Right? If only it were that easy. And, if it were that easy, the story wouldn’t be nearly as interesting.

    The year 2000 was early for online education lead generation, but it wasn’t early for several of the larger for profit institutions. Apollo Group’s University of Phoenix for instance had just entered its third decade of existence, but unlike today, where liquidity / monetization for those entering the marketing of online education, there was no field guide for ClassesUSA aka “Classes.” Their first site in fact had none of the usual suspects that we find on today’s online education properties. Luciano knew he wanted to create an online business, hence partnering with Jordon and creating Classes. But, with neither knowing what exactly that entailed what do you do? In their case, the logical choice was creating a showcase of classes that could be taken online. And rather than compensation occurring on a per lead basis, they received payment on a per transaction level. These weren’t degree programs but vocational courses; think of it as an early version of EduFire.

    Site built. Next was traffic, and this is where things start to click into place for amateur historians. In 2002, Jordon made a deal with MSN for placement. This wasn’t a straight banner deal but a more robust integration of their content and course listings. It was a cpc deal for MSN, where clicks on the courses would earn them money. It was still an arbitrage play for ClassesUSA, because they only received payment on a purchase. What they didn’t know at the time was that this deal and style of placement would become one of the best things that happened.  He certainly would have guessed it when they were losing money each month over month. But that would soon change, and it would change the entire focus of their business as well.  The placement attracted the attention of AIU who saw the Classes content as a natural fit for its certificates. That AIU wanted to pay on a lead basis was an initial stumbling block for a company that operated on an ecommerce model, but they went ahead and tried it.

    Not long after, Jordon found himself hearing from Capella and the University of Phoenix. They too had seen the site, and now with AIU on there, they wanted placement as well. And, it was then that the business started to shift. Leads worked. They went from losing money to making money, and even better they had the premier entities coming to them as opposed to the other way around. The content deal started working too well in fact. Jordon negotiated a cap on the number of clicks they would pay out to MSN. After that cap, it was pure profit. Around the time that they began renegotiating the deal was the time that MSN introduced PerformancePlus, their display on a CPA program that was open to a select few big spenders, one of whom was Classes. Now, they started running individual school ads on display and on other placements throughout the site. And, guess what happened when they put Phoenix on the home page? Everyone wanted the same – from schools to other aggregators. The gatekeeper to that traffic for a period became Classes and on the path to exponential growth.

    The next step became to own all of elearning on MSN, which they did, and then to apply that formula to other properties. Jordon proceeded to create a partnership with AOL, and in the next two years, he had crafted arrangements with almost all job and career sites. In 2005, Experian gave Classes an offer they couldn’t refuse, becoming part of Experian Interactive along with LowerMyBills and AffiliateFuel. Jordon moved Classes from its Staten Island headquarters that they shared with Luciano’s other business, CollegBound Network to the city, Manhattan. At about the same time, an old client from pre-Classes days was pitching a lead generation idea to him that Jordon invested in, and when his contract with Experian ended, he decided to take over the helm and apply his learnings to the senior housing lead generation space… which brings us to SeniorsForLiving.

    The online lead generation space for seniors is a fascinating and tantalizing one. It has all the right makings for a successful vertical – a large audience (boomers and their parents), a high ticket price (senior housing is not cheap), a transactional component, and a decision that requires follow-up, i.e. you don’t buy it online. As any who has tried to get into a new vertical can tell you, it’s a grueling process. There is a huge sales undertaking as you work to get coverage for the leads and as you work on educating buyers who in the past haven’t used leads as part of their business. It is according to Jordon where education was about ten years ago. There are some national brands that buy leads, but the mid to long tail isn’t there. And, senior housing lead generation is more akin to ground schools lead gen as a physical presence is needed. If there is anyone who will have success beating down doors, though, it’s he. A key to success he tells me is making sure institutions understand performance based marketing is the way to go, and trying to institute some online dna into marketing teams that are often focused only offline. Sounds familiar to many, I’m sure.

    Overall, Jordon is sticking to the formula he knows and believes in – user choice and exclusive leads. Their model focuses on a portal based approach where everything relies on the user making informed choices and understanding what happens next. That user doesn’t fill out a generic form but one for a specific institution. Not new to the game, SeniorsForLiving is focusing on quality of leads. As for traffic generation, they have made themselves very publisher friendly, and given what he did in the past, I wouldn’t be surprised if there weren’t some interesting partnerships in the works.

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  • News Brief: Quinstreet Files for IPO

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    A name known to many but a company still unknown below the surface, Quinstreet announced plans to raise $250mm in an IPO and trade under the symbol QNST.  Having had their founder and CEO, Doug Valenti, on a panel at LeadsCon, it was a first opportunity for many of us to get a feel for their operation. There are volumes to be said on this, and a more detailed post is coming. If only we were part of the ex-Quinstreet list serv. Overall, a tremendous day for online lead generation, and we should all congratulate and thank Quinstreet, as a successful IPO will help list the entire industry and practice. Not everyone likes them, but for now, we should all root for them.

    Here is what I wrote on my personal blog:

    The day many of us have been waiting for (including Quinstreet) has arrived – the Quinstreet IPO. After years of speculation and some unanticipated market twists, Quinstreet announced its intention to go public, filing their S-1. For a company that has been incredibly secretive closed lipped, the S-1 is an amazing look under the hood of one of the most intriguing companies in the online lead generation space. It details their acquisition history, and while many of us knew about their acquisitive nature, none would have expected it to include more than 100 purchases with at least four eight figure deals. The Quinstreet today is no longer an education lead generation business. They are a roll-up and have been a source of liquidity for countless smaller publishers who sites earn revenue through lead generation. And, today they are a diversified play with some large client concentration but only 50% of the business being edu.

    Much more to be said on the topic.

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  • Subscription Service Upsells – In The Line of Fire

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    Ask just about anyone in the online customer acquisition space to define an “upsell,” and instead of blank looks, out 10 people you survey, you’ll get roughly 10 similar answers. It’s business practice as old as just about business itself and a crucial way for many businesses to make additional revenue. Extra value meals? An upsell. Care to start with an appetizer folks? Upsell. Look around they are everywhere offline and not surprisingly, online too. The market is sufficiently large that multi-hundred million dollar per year companies exist specializing in helping a wide variety of sites, from lead gen sites to branded commerce sites make more. The lower the margin business you run, the more you rely on upsells. A classic example comes from the online lead generation world. When email was a more viable option for generating additional revenues, many companies would run their ads at almost break-even to a loss, just so they could get address and mailing revenue.

    What’s another business known to run at extremely low margins? The travel industry, especially those offering airline tickets. Now, with most online travel agencies (Orbitz, Expedia, etc.) waiving fees on purchases, they make next to nothing. It’s why their affiliate programs pay out something like 4% of revenue on good day. The airlines themselves, aren’t exactly doing wonderfully themselves. So, it’s no wonder each has various ways of upselling users who convert. If you’ve booked on Expedia, in addition to being asked if you need a hotel or car, you will find yourself scrolling through countless activities available in your destination city. I can’t blame them. Those actually make them money unlike that flight you just bought. Frequent purchasers of tickets and ad junkies, will recall another upsell as well.

    Here is the image of my recent booking for LeadsCon Las Vegas being held Tuesday, February 23 and Wednesday, February 24.
    Itinerary

    Notice something on the far right hand side? It’s a $50 cash back incentive.
    Upsell

    For years, I can remember seeing a button like this one after I make a purchase on a variety of sites, especially airline sites. And, it’s this button that has come under fire, with a press release being issued by the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. The release is below, but title tells enough, “Chairman Rockefeller Requests Information from Web Retailers in ‘Mystery Charges’ Investigation.” Read the list of companies who received a request for information, and those in our space will quickly connect the dots, or in this case,the button. The list reads like a who’s who of Adaptive Marketing and Webloyalty’s biggest customers. The key to their success and the publishers is something that the direct marketing industry refers to as Card on File. You’ve just made a purchase. They now have your credit card details. That makes an upsell easier and more rewarding because a purchase related upsell, generally a subscription service, is more lucrative than a data/form based one.

    Here’s how it looks today. Click on the button, which has disclaimer language underneath, and you go here, to Reservation-Rewards. This site is not run by the airline/online travel agent. It is run by Webloyalty, a company that specializes in running subscription services, with their largest acquisition channel being online upsells. This is the same company and type that you would have seen offering these same subscription programs as an insert into your credit card bill. Sending an email telling someone to get $50 their next purchase and hoping they convert doesn’t work nearly as well as someone who just purchased.
    Reservation-Rewards

    Scroll to the bottom of the page, and here is what the conversion process looks like.
    webloyalty-terms

    Mystery charges? In this exact case it’s no mystery, but I can remember not too long ago where the distinction between offer and signup didn’t have this level of differentiation. The button didn’t have the full disclaimer and the sign-up process for the consumer didn’t require additional opting-in. Webloyalty and Adaptive Marketing have faced these issues before, especially related to their telemarketing practices when calling on behalf of credit cards and others with card on file. They’ve weathered the storm, but the results of this investigation could impact the online lead generation space as well. Given how little the broader world understands this type of upselling, it’s not hard to imagine them generalizing.

    Regardless of the outcome, it’s a gray area. The companies doing card on file upsells in the past haven’t been angles. Since then, though, their practices are effective, but they haven’t been scandalous. The unfortunate truth is that I’m sure they do receive a higher than desired (by an outside governing body’s point of view) rate of people signing up who later didn’t recall doing so. Why would they? It’s an impulse purchase from a generic name. That’s the nature of the beast. That’s human nature, and there comes a point where you can only ask the companies to do so much and need to start demanding that the consumers take more responsibility. I’m sure I’d feel differently if the situation were reversed and I was paying $49.99/month+ and having difficulty canceling.

    Copy of the release:

    Chairman Rockefeller Requests Information from Web Retailers in “Mystery Charges” Investigation
    WASHINGTON, D.C.—John D. (Jay) Rockefeller IV, Chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, continued the Committee’s investigation into controversial “post-transaction” online business practices by sending letters yesterday to 16 e-retailers that appear to be involved in these practices.
    Since May 2009, the Committee has been investigating three e-commerce companies—Affinion, Vertrue, and Webloyalty—to better understand their business practices on the Internet, which have been the focus of criticism by consumer advocates and have generated thousands of complaints by individual consumers.  Chairman Rockefeller continued this investigation yesterday by sending information request letters to sixteen companies that have apparently allowed Affinion, Vertrue, and Webloyalty to present membership club enrollment offers to their online customers and have agreed to pass their customers’ credit card or debit card numbers to Affinion, Vertrue, and Webloyalty.
    A list of the companies that received a request for information is included below:
    1-800-FLOWERS.com, Inc.
    AirTran Holdings, Inc.
    Classmates.com, Inc.
    Continental Airlines, Inc.
    FTD, Inc.
    Fandango, Inc.
    Hotwire, Inc.
    Intelius, Inc.
    Movietickets.com, Inc.
    Orbitz Worldwide, Inc.
    Pizza Hut, Inc.
    Priceline.com, Inc.
    Redcats USA, Inc.
    Shutterfly, Inc.
    US Airways Group, Inc.
    Vistaprint USA, Inc.
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  • Google Comparison Ads – What It Really Means

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    After two years of development, a teaser beta in the UK last year, and a potential lawsuit seeking to derail its US release, Google’s internally groundbreaking initiative that allows (for now) mortgage banks to buy not just clicks but a request for contact has launched. Called Google Comparison Ads, the product signals a huge directional shift inside of Google (one towards vertical development of their core search monetization) and a potential huge disruption to the online lead generation world.

    Google Comparison Ads Ad

    In classic Google style, the announcement came via one lone blogger and their Inside AdWords blog. I’m still convinced that posts for the Inside AdWords blog are re-written by a specially trained team in Japanese culture who know how to say one thing but mean something very different. Taken at face value, the words sound pleasant, almost complimentary, but translated into their real meaning, they would come across quite differently. The Comparison Ads announcement is no exception. The post, like almost any focusing on improvements to the algorithm speak about value to the user and a more qualified lead for the advertiser. What they are really saying is that the vast majority of those spending money today don’t do a good job. Not surprisingly, those within the online lead generation space have had a lot to say, and the voices represent some of Google’s longest, biggest spenders who can tell you that it was hard enough to spend effectively on Google without actually having to compete with them.  Both sides, not surprisingly, have many valid points.
    google-comparison-ads-results

    (Photo credit: DoublePositive Blog)

    Google Comparison Ads for mortgage is what every mortgage lead generator should have built but didn’t. (Read excellent non-partisan overview of the product from Nick Hedges of Leads360, who like LeadCritic, has hands-on mortgage industry experience.) And, it is because they didn’t build it that Google did. Saying that they should have built it doesn’t tell the whole side of the story. Should doesn’t mean could, and could is what separates Google from the aggregators whose results they displace. Dealing with Google is like dealing with the IRS. If they want something done, it gets done. Ignore the complexities involved with the actual quoting, and let’s focus on the buyers of the leads. Want lenders to buy anonymous leads, e.g., ones without the user’s real phone number? Want lead buyers to be ok with that phone number being tracked and the number deactivated after a while? Good luck being any other company who tries the same. It takes a Google to do it. Comparing others to Google or having them held to Google’s standards is itself a slight double standard.

    Concerns about Google’s global positioning aside, we have an immense amount of respect for what was built, because it forces everyone to elevate their game and keep delivering a better product. This will cause some pain now but that Google speaks about leads is only a long-term benefit for lead generation. And not only do we respect the product, but we really respect the people who built it as they have lead generation and mortgage lead generation in their DNA.  First choice for many would be to not have Google enter, but since they did, at least the product was created by someone any in the industry would trust.

    As Google (indirectly) said in their announcement post this is just the beginning. Here are our takeaways on what Comparison Ads means:

    1. This is not about mortgages – a point we made when covering the Moretech / Lending Tree suit which blew the lid off the Google lead gen product, mortgages is the first vertical. But, it’s not even about verticals so much as Google’s stance on the way form-based lead generation is conducted today. There is a reason a landing page with a form can never get a 10 quality score. Forms themselves aren’t bad, but Google doesn’t like them to be the first and only goal. The user doesn’t click on an ad for “Compare Rates” because they want to see a simple thank you page and hear the phone ring. They want information, and if we can’t do it, Google will.
    2. It still has to monetize – Google can’t lose money on their inventory just because they want to deliver a certain experience. If Google Comparison Ads do not help Google make more money, they will not continue to receive the premium placement. The same holds true for the lead buyers. They don’t hate the current ecosystem and so long as they spend money, don’t count out the current aggregation marketplaces.
    3. It won’t work for everything – comparison ads work for things that can be compared; it requires standardized data and a more of a commodity product. Loans in general are a great fit as are credit cards and insurance. We weren’t the first to say or think that Bankrate got lucky by being taken private. Almost all verticals can use improvement, but the type of game changer created for mortgage isn’t as applicable to many service based industries.
    4. Lead generation is not Google’s DNA – this platform works amazingly well for mortgages and financial products. But, not only is it no sure thing for many others, outside of a really small team, Google doesn’t get lead generation. The companies who do, and those who can add a marketing services + aggregation function, still have lots of growth ahead. Buyers aren’t going to stop wanting face to face meetings, hand holding, and golf outings. Comparison Ads is a game changer but not a category killer.
    5. It’s just one spot – Google can’t capture every click and every conversion. They won’t stop taking money from others, and they aren’t marketers. That leaves many chances for others to continue to spend and capture those users who, as we all know, don’t actually want to do any work. They just want to fill out a form.
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